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Bagration setup questions
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Dołączył: 18 Paź 2008
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Wysłany: Nie 01 Lis, 2009   Bagration setup questions

Hi,

Setup for scenario "1 sierpnia" made. And some questions to ask...

- Kozacka BK : Setup in 1333 or enter in L in the fisrt turn ?
- 3 BK : enter on 3 VIII in T, S or on 5 VIII in R ?
- Soviet reinforcement : 1 VIII 1 KZmech. / 5 VIII 1 KPanc.Gw. I have 4 units left for those : 35/I, 37/I, 19/I (halfracks) and 219/I (tanks). Which counters are form 1 KZmech. and which one for 1 KPanc.Gw. ?
- AK : I have on AK unit left, and can't find how this one could enter play...
- Warsaw insurection : Insurection begans on the first turn of the scenario (1 VIII). What the effect of these units ? There are roads to block in Warsaw, but if I place well the german units in the city, roads (at least one) can be safe. Do insurection units have ZoC (to block roads) ?
- I have 4 german units left : 102, 104, 270 and Szknly, all tank units. They are not used in this scenario ?
- Victory conditions : Axis control of Siedlce : +12 VP. Is it at the end of each turn ?
- Rules question : German units can recover from step loss if the unit does nothing during a turn. Even in enemy ZoC ? And soviet units cannot recover from their loss ?

Thanks for your help.

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Kragdob
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Dołączył: 02 Kwi 2004
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Wysłany: Śro 04 Lis, 2009   

Will get that for you, as soon as I grab a setup rules (which I don't have at home now).

Should have that in 1-2 days.
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Kragdob
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Dołączył: 02 Kwi 2004
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Wysłany: Pon 16 Lis, 2009   Re: Bagration setup questions

This took me a little bit more then 2 days....

jonas napisał/a:
- Kozacka BK : Setup in 1333 or enter in L in the fisrt turn?


Reinforcements are for both scenarios. For the second one "August 1" (1 sierpnia) you have all units that are scheduled to enter on August 1st and earlier already set up on the board.

jonas napisał/a:
- 3 BK : enter on 3 VIII in T, S or on 5 VIII in R ?


3 VIII – 102 DP, 3 BK T, S means that those units can enter either from T or S zones.

5 VIII is a mistake.

jonas napisał/a:
- Soviet reinforcement : 1 VIII 1 KZmech. / 5 VIII 1 KPanc.Gw. I have 4 units left for those : 35/I, 37/I, 19/I (halfracks) and 219/I (tanks). Which counters are form 1 KZmech. and which one for 1 KPanc.Gw. ?


I don't have counters for the game - but you should have 4 counters for each. Check with armies they enter with as they are those armies' corpses. I'll need some time untill I can have a look at counters and see.

Maybe (if that's second scenario) you already set up 1st Mechanized Corps (1KZmech.)?

jonas napisał/a:
- AK : I have on AK unit left, and can't find how this one could enter play...


If you have one counter left you can add it to Warsaw whenever you have some empty hex there. (after uprising begins)

jonas napisał/a:
- Warsaw insurection : Insurection begans on the first turn of the scenario (1 VIII). What the effect of these units ? There are roads to block in Warsaw, but if I place well the german units in the city, roads (at least one) can be safe. Do insurection units have ZoC (to block roads) ?


Yes, in the gamescale they just block roads through Warsaw - the only one left is through Gora Kalwaria then.

And yes, one of the most reasonable tactics is to leave enough German units in city to have one road safe.

This is tactics question, uprising draws German units from front lines. The more you put in Warsaw, the weaker are your defences against Soviets, the less you put in Warsaw, the biggest threat to your supply lines.

jonas napisał/a:
- I have 4 german units left : 102, 104, 270 and Szkolny, all tank units. They are not used in this scenario ?


I'm not sure. If they are not listed in setup and in reinforcements then they just don't play.

jonas napisał/a:
- Victory conditions : Axis control of Siedlce : +12 VP. Is it at the end of each turn ?


No, if at any moment of game Axis controls Siedlce they receive 12 VP (they keep the points even if the town is recaptured by Soviets later).

jonas napisał/a:
- Rules question : German units can recover from step loss if the unit does nothing during a turn. Even in enemy ZoC ? And soviet units cannot recover from their loss ?


This is special rule that is for German Armoured divisions only - they were receiving much reinforcements during the battle form Germany.

This concerns only those Panzer Divisions that enter the game already weakened (3 divisions): 19DPanc, HG (Panzer Division "Herman Goering") and 4DPanc.

yes, the condition for them to strenghten up is that they don't move and combat during a day (both Soviet and German turns), that's even in enemy ZoC.

All other units cannot be strenghtened.
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